Anyone Using Premiere Pro and N4? Getting AAF Import to work

Ryanhdd

Ok So i know most professionals use Final Cut to do there video editing. But were I am at we went the PC route and are using Premier Pro. So for the life of me I cannot get AAF importing to work in N4. I have never been able to get it to work in any Nuendo versions either, I have tried 2, 3 and 4.. I have heard that when you import an AAF it associates itself with the trimmed video files. So if you do not have them on the local machine you will not be able to import an AAF. I have not had a chance to get up with the video editor to try this out yet. I am hoping to in the next few weeks. Does anyone have any input that might get me into the right direction and make this work. Thanks Ryan
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Ryanhdd · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:35 am Post subject:

I know seriously who uses Premier Pro, right.... Anyone?
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Tomlobotom · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:55 am Post subject:

Hi
Same problem here. For now I know that audio must be separated from video file (.avi) in Premier ??
No plugins on audio clips or tracks in Premier.
Looking for the video editor who read the manual.

By
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Dooley · Member Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Iowa, USA

I'll do some tests on my system I use premier as well. I just posted on the hardware setup forum if you could help me there I would certainly try and help you with the export problem?

Thank you
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Dooley · Member Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Iowa, USA

Actualy it's in the nuendo 3 forum.

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psvennevig · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject:

I think the AAF in Premiere was made just to be compatible with one software, and no it wasn't PT, but I can't remember which software it is..
Do some searches at Google, I know I saw it once.

P
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Ryanhdd · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:

was it after effects?
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Neil Wilkes · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:

Gorazd · New Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 12

Hi,

You realy can 100% sucessfuly work with AAF exported files from Adobe
Premiere CS3 in to the Nuendo 4.

You must just keep these important suggestions in the mind:

- all the video and audio files must be on the same
computer or on the same network share drives

- you can not import the AAF Adobe Premiere CS3 made
files directly in to the Nuendo 4 custom made projects - you must
first open such files in the Nuendo 4 and save them as OMF files -
then you can import such OMF files sucessfuly in to the
Nuendo 4 custom made projects

- if you want to get successfuly 100% working AAF file from Adobe premiere CS3
you must select all the audio parts with one mouse click in the Premiere timeline
and then go to the clip menu, choose audio options and choose render and replace
and the Premiere shall render all the audio in the MXF, AVI and etc files
and it shall automaticly replace them with the WAV files in one go which shall be linked to the
adequted video clips - then when you shall do AAF export and you shall open such file
in the Nuendo 4, you shall get all the audio tracks, crossfades and etc...
including audio handles ( additional audio which was part of the unused part of the clips)
at the start and in the end of the files if there was such audio captured when you did
capturing in the Premiere CS3 what is realy wonderful.

So there is no truth that there is no way that you can get the OMF file out of the
Adobe Premiere CS3 what was Wes Plate statement from Automatic Duck
when they abandoned the OMF export plugin for the Adobe Premiere Pro.
Of course you realy only need the Nuendo 3 or Nuendo 4 application.

Of course the best way would be that you can import the Adobe Premiere CS
project file directly in the Nuendo application what would be great if the
Steinberg team could make it happen. Could Fredo please the Steinberg team to
implement it?

And because Avid missed in the september the IBC largest European exhibition and
now when they made official statement that they shall not be present
at NAB 2008 and that they shall only occasionaly visit their potential customers directly
at their place or at home, it looks that Pro Tools application shall also have similar future.

I only know that my grandmama occasionaly visit me at my home at special occasions,
and this realy happened "occasionaly" when she realy retired.

So now it looks that the real future is realy only the great Nuendo application.

Best regards,

Gorazd.

Neil Wilkes

Ryanhdd · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject:

Yes i did not understand what he meant about that either, But i am very happy about the other responses, I was going to try this stuff last night but my video editors where nowhere to be seen. Thanks, Looking forward to where this post might go.
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Neil Wilkes · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject:

Gorazd · New Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 12

Hi,

When you start the Nuendo 4 application you import the AAF file and
Nuendo 4 opens the AAF project with all the tracks crossfades and etc........
You then export such file as OMF.

You then import such OMF file with the embeded audio in to the
Nuendo template projects or your custom Nuendo 4 projects.

If you import AAF file directly as you do with OMF in to Nuendo 4
based template projects or in to your custom Nuendo 4 projects
you simply do not get nothing and a lot of users then think
that AAF import does not work.

But if you import OMF directly in to the Nuendo 4 based template projects
or in to your custom Nuendo 4 projects you get all the necesary files.

So first you must import AAF file and export it as the OMF in order that you get
sucessfull import in to your custom projects where you have done all the custom settings
with ducking tracks, surround tracks, folder tracks, send efx, sweetening efx, mastering efx and etc...............

Best regards,

Gorazd.

Fredo · Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject:

Wow,

That is really strange ... are you sure about that?
I have just tested the same thing with an AAF file coming from an Avid Media Composer 2.7 and it makes no difference if you import the AAF into an existing project or into a new project. Frankly, as far as I know the specs of an AAF file, it shouldn't make any difference at all if the project is already created or not.
I even imported that same AAF succesfully into a mis-matched Nuendo project (44.1 vs 48kHz and different framerates), and it worked perfect.

I wonder where the problem could be, Nuendo failing to import the AAF of a badly created AAF ...
Strange ...

Fredo

Gorazd · New Member Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 12

Hi,

It looks that this is Nuendo 3 and Nuendo 4 feature,
because Nuendo imports fine the AAF file as the new
AAF file project and it fails when you import the AAF
directly in to your custom projects.

Can this be fixed?

Shall also the Nuendo 4 export dialog shall be fixed in
order that you do not always need to choose your
export settings in order that you get the proper
desired output and not only the 44.100 kHz 32 bit
files?

Can you also implement the direct import
of the Adobe Premiere CS3 projects ( especialy or only audio parts)
directly in the Nuendo 4? This could be huge feature
and could sell a lot of Nuendo 4 licenses especialy if you
could release the Nuendo Studio edition with fewer features
and made especialy for Adobe Premiere CS 3 editors.

Can you make the link for every audo event and audio file
in the Nuendo 4 timeline to external exe aplication -
for example for excellent Wavelab 6.1 where I could do
the detail spectral restauration in the spectral view mode?
This was possibile in the old days of the Cubase VST,
but unfortunately at that time Wavelab did not
have this restauration feature.
Please?
You could even implement offline audio history
in order that I can undo the undesired external processing
what is not hard to do and Nuendo 4 shall stil be
100% undestructive editing environment.

I look forward to hearing from you soon and thank you
in advance.

Best reagrds,

Gorazd.

psvennevig · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject:

I guess if it is as Gorazd says here, the issue with Premiere PRO AAF files in that it need to import into a Nuendo project with settings picked up from the AAF file.
This can only be done with a direct import in Nuendo. OR we could figure out what these Premiere AAF settings is, and actually make them in a open Nuendo project.

I will test this since I have Premiere PRO, if it works it is cool. Because I have never gotten Nuendo to open Premiere pro AAFs.

Pål
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Neil Wilkes · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject:

I also have Premiere Pro CS3.1 here too.
Will create a PPro AAF, and see what happens.
We also have a PPro on a Nuendo 3.2.1 system as well.

Time to go test.
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Garrett A. Rockey · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject:

Neil:

Any results from your PPro AAF test?
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JimmySX · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: